The whole of the UK should revolt if the convicted felon's invite is not revoked.
Trump is neither a friend or an ally of the UK and should never have received a 'royal invitation'.
It appears that Starmer and King Charles are oblivious to the mood of the nation. Sadly, It seems that Starmer is incapable of 'reading the room' with so many of his policies.
Trump does not represent democracy on any level, all his policies up to now are by executive orders not by democratic debates. He must never be allowed to speak in our Parliament EVER. Other countries look to Britain as the home of democracy if Trump is allowed to speak our integrity will be flushed down the toilet the same way we have stood and watched USA’s integrity,democracy and loyalty flushed down the drain. Someone has to stand up to this bully and I hope our country is on the side that will not be bullied. State visit one thing but speaking in our parliament is a step to far 😡🤬😡
It would be a travesty and national shame if he were allowed to speak in parliament. Starmer acted far too soon in inviting him on a state visit. Very, very poor judgement but he has no need to make it even worse.
Sometimes the best protests are made silently. IF the speaker allows the current president of the United States an audience in the House of Commons, perhaps the best demonstration would be for our elected representatives to absent themselves.
...or stand and turn their backs on him. This would actually be more direct and effective than mere empty seats, I feel (though I agree a completely empty house would work, sadly that would be unlikely to happen.)
A liar, felon and a dictator - he should not be allowed to address The Mother of Parliaments. He shouldn't be invited to Parliament at all. It will be a disgrace and an insult to our country, our Parliament and our Royal Family. And every British person.
It's painful to see our politicians cap-in-hand kissing Trump's ass, as he put it. Other countries have taken a very different line. It will be tough, but with political will and imagination they will triumph. Have we no pride left? Thank you Mark for the opportunity to comment.
Where did I get the idea that Liberals believed in free speech? Not just for the people who agree with us. I think he is insane , his trade policies divisive and costly, his foreign policies dangerous and his morals obnoxious but he is the elected leader of the largest English speaking nation so if he is in London he should be treated with respect. Our MP's do not have to applaud and if the majority of his audience sat in total silence it would give a stronger message than any boycott.
The office of the President of the United States deserves our utmost respect. But the current occupant, by his own words and deeds, deserves very little, if any. It is not his right to address the Westminster Parliament; that would be a privilege granted to him on our behalf by those we have charged to defend Parliament and the democracy it serves. Trump has a right to say whatever he wants whenever he wants (and he does). We have a right to decide who we honour with an address to Parliament and who we won’t (and I trust we will exercise that right wisely).
All of this argument would carry more weight if our own political process were a bit less messy. A second chamber swollen by Lords who either bought their way in, or are willing to sell their words not that they have a seat, and MPs who "advise" and have second jobs on matters that they get to decide about, let alone all the landlords who worry about laws to protect the millions who are forced to rent. Beams and motes, methinks.
I hear what you’re saying, Gordon, but I’d say those are arguments for strengthening and renewing our system, not for further debasing it by giving this guy the honour. Not sure there’s an ‘either/or’ here.
I'm not a particular fan of Mr Trump but I don't quite understand the hatred some people have for him. Over many years our King and Prime Ministers have hosted many despots to our country. People who allow no human rights in their country. People who stone wo.en to death and behead those who cross them. Yet no-one seemed bothered by their visits.
The press are in charge of what the public thinks and how they react. They're certainly doing a good job at the moment!
I thought the prime function of the President was to uphold the Constitution of the United States. By riding roughshod over it he is casting a threatening shadow over the other settled democracies. Why isn't Congress, the primary checker and balancer, holding him to account?
I thought the prime function of the President was to uphold the Constitution of the United States. By riding roughshod over it he is casting a threatening shadow over the other settled democracies. Why isn't Congress, the primary checker and balancer, hiding him to account?
I thought the prime function of the President was to uphold the Constitution the United States. By riding roughshod over it he is casting a threatening shadow over the other settled democracies. Why isn't Congress, the primary checker and balancer holding him to account?
He is a liar and convicted criminal and should never have been invited to the UK, let alone speak to parliament
The whole of the UK should revolt if the convicted felon's invite is not revoked.
Trump is neither a friend or an ally of the UK and should never have received a 'royal invitation'.
It appears that Starmer and King Charles are oblivious to the mood of the nation. Sadly, It seems that Starmer is incapable of 'reading the room' with so many of his policies.
Trump does not represent democracy on any level, all his policies up to now are by executive orders not by democratic debates. He must never be allowed to speak in our Parliament EVER. Other countries look to Britain as the home of democracy if Trump is allowed to speak our integrity will be flushed down the toilet the same way we have stood and watched USA’s integrity,democracy and loyalty flushed down the drain. Someone has to stand up to this bully and I hope our country is on the side that will not be bullied. State visit one thing but speaking in our parliament is a step to far 😡🤬😡
It would be a travesty and national shame if he were allowed to speak in parliament. Starmer acted far too soon in inviting him on a state visit. Very, very poor judgement but he has no need to make it even worse.
Sometimes the best protests are made silently. IF the speaker allows the current president of the United States an audience in the House of Commons, perhaps the best demonstration would be for our elected representatives to absent themselves.
...or stand and turn their backs on him. This would actually be more direct and effective than mere empty seats, I feel (though I agree a completely empty house would work, sadly that would be unlikely to happen.)
A liar, felon and a dictator - he should not be allowed to address The Mother of Parliaments. He shouldn't be invited to Parliament at all. It will be a disgrace and an insult to our country, our Parliament and our Royal Family. And every British person.
The place for traitors is The Tower, NOT Parliament or The Palace.
And Trump is a TRAITOR
He has betrayed and undermined the sacrifices made by the UK and our allies to support Ukraine against a vile Aggressor.
He has betrayed the security alliance of western nations by sucking up the Krtemlin
He has declared economic warfare on the whole world and on supposed allies .
He is no friend of Britain.
If he persists with these then the invitation to a State visit MUST be withdrawn.
It's painful to see our politicians cap-in-hand kissing Trump's ass, as he put it. Other countries have taken a very different line. It will be tough, but with political will and imagination they will triumph. Have we no pride left? Thank you Mark for the opportunity to comment.
Where did I get the idea that Liberals believed in free speech? Not just for the people who agree with us. I think he is insane , his trade policies divisive and costly, his foreign policies dangerous and his morals obnoxious but he is the elected leader of the largest English speaking nation so if he is in London he should be treated with respect. Our MP's do not have to applaud and if the majority of his audience sat in total silence it would give a stronger message than any boycott.
The office of the President of the United States deserves our utmost respect. But the current occupant, by his own words and deeds, deserves very little, if any. It is not his right to address the Westminster Parliament; that would be a privilege granted to him on our behalf by those we have charged to defend Parliament and the democracy it serves. Trump has a right to say whatever he wants whenever he wants (and he does). We have a right to decide who we honour with an address to Parliament and who we won’t (and I trust we will exercise that right wisely).
All of this argument would carry more weight if our own political process were a bit less messy. A second chamber swollen by Lords who either bought their way in, or are willing to sell their words not that they have a seat, and MPs who "advise" and have second jobs on matters that they get to decide about, let alone all the landlords who worry about laws to protect the millions who are forced to rent. Beams and motes, methinks.
I hear what you’re saying, Gordon, but I’d say those are arguments for strengthening and renewing our system, not for further debasing it by giving this guy the honour. Not sure there’s an ‘either/or’ here.
Yes: but it's an Achilles heel that we need to attend to, we're in a glass house.
We definitely have lots of problems that need fixing. I’m with you there!
Trump is a nasty piece of work. I hope some harm comes to him soon.
I feel I should disagree with you, but I'd struggle to!
I'm not a particular fan of Mr Trump but I don't quite understand the hatred some people have for him. Over many years our King and Prime Ministers have hosted many despots to our country. People who allow no human rights in their country. People who stone wo.en to death and behead those who cross them. Yet no-one seemed bothered by their visits.
The press are in charge of what the public thinks and how they react. They're certainly doing a good job at the moment!
All I can say is that it would be an EXTREMELY unpopular move in this country if he was invited to speak to our Parliament.
I thought the prime function of the President was to uphold the Constitution of the United States. By riding roughshod over it he is casting a threatening shadow over the other settled democracies. Why isn't Congress, the primary checker and balancer, holding him to account?
I thought the prime function of the President was to uphold the Constitution of the United States. By riding roughshod over it he is casting a threatening shadow over the other settled democracies. Why isn't Congress, the primary checker and balancer, hiding him to account?
I thought the prime function of the President was to uphold the Constitution the United States. By riding roughshod over it he is casting a threatening shadow over the other settled democracies. Why isn't Congress, the primary checker and balancer holding him to account?